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A short opinion

Facebook keeps rejecting my scam reports

Facebook has been showing me advertisements for investment scams for many years. When I report the scams to Facebook they mostly reject my reports despite the ads being clear breaches of Facebook's advertising standards. Their response is typically "we didn't remove the ad".

Why? The scam ads should be easy to detect because the scams have been following the same pattern for years.

I'd expect Facebook to be able to use their AI technology to automatically detect the scams. Facebook and its parent company Meta make some of the best AI technology and are spending billions on AI, but perhaps their AI simply isn't up to the task. Humans certainly are though; a person would notice the scam in seconds. So why doesn't Facebook notice the scam when I report it?

I suspect humans aren't even looking at the reports I send in. I reckon they should be.

A boring section where I demonstrate why these are scams

A scam advertisement on Facebook from early September 2024
A scam advertisement on Facebook from early September 2024

I say these are obvious scams but here is a detailed example so you can judge for yourself.

Take a look at this typical ad that Facebook showed me in early September. The ad has all the hallmarks of this particular scam:

  • Mentions a famous Australian, in this case Paul Hogan.
  • Implies that they are either dead or in trouble: "Paul Hogan's tragic end!"
  • Pretends to be a legitimate news website though often the URL doesn't make sense or match the image, like Czech website wn24.cz here for an Australian celebrity.

This pattern is so common and so consistent it should immediately raise red flags. It isn't proven to be a scam at this point... but every ad like this that I've looked into turns out to be a scam. I'm sure you'll see the pattern yourself after just a few ads. Here's a selection of the hundreds of scam ads I've seen on Facebook in the last few years to demonstrate:

A composite image of some scam ads I've seen on Facebook in the last few years, showing 20 different scam advertisements featuring well-known Australians Paul Hogan, Kyle Sandilands, Maggie Beer, David Koch, Karl Stefanovic, Guy Sebastian, Sam Kerr, and Andrew Denton.
A composite image of some scam ads I've seen on Facebook in the last few years

They're not using exactly the same text and images, but they are similar enough that I reckon a human reviewer should immediately recognise ads that fit this pattern.

Clicking on any of those advertisements would take me a fake news article about the celebrity pictured in the ad. For this Paul Hogan ad it is a fake news.com.au website with a headline "Bank of Australia is suing Paul Hogan for what he said on live TV" which looks like this:

A screenshot of a fake news.com.au article linked to from a Facebook ad with the headline 'Bank of Australia is suing Paul Hogan for what he said on live TV'.
The scam website linked to from the Facebook ad above.

This is not a legimate news article. The easiest way to determine that is by the URL on the address bar:

https://qiyudz.top/products/w9587r-real-bra-tank-candy-orange?source_id=YHVt2vvbmMjQSE
  • Uses an obscure domain: qiyudz.top instead of news.com.au
  • The domain doesn't match the one shown on the ad: this is qiyudz.top but the ad showed wn24.cz
  • The slug doesn't relate to the story: 'real-bra-tank-candy-orange' clearly isn't referring to a news story

Those are basic checks which anyone could do even if they're not Australian and don't know who Paul Hogan is. That should be sufficient evidence that this is a fake news story, but someone with a little knowledge and a little time to do some more checks would find several more problems:

  • Wrong design: this doesn't look like the legitimate news.com.au site
  • Links don't work: clicking the National, World, Lifestyle etc links doesn't do anything
  • No advertising: real news sites are desperate for money so they cover their pages in ads
  • Non-existent bank: there is no such thing as the 'Bank of Australia'
  • Unlikely author: Alan Kohler and 7.30 appear on ABC, which is a competitor to news.com.au
  • Undated article: says 'Posted 20h ago' rather than the actual date, and that '20h ago' never changes

At this point we've established that this is not a legitimate news article but we have not yet confirmed that it is a scam. The evidence that this is a scam is in the text of the article. It's a very long page so I haven't included everything here but you may view the entire page in these screenshots:

The page has several of the investment scam warning signs from ScamWatch:

  • Fake news stories or ads that claim a celebrity recommends this scheme to make big money.
  • Emails, websites or ads with testimonials and over-the-top promises of big returns.
  • High pressure tactics designed to rush you to act so you don't 'miss out'.

We've already established that this is a fake news story about a celebrity with a fake ad, so that's the first warning sign.

The second warning sign is the over-the-top promise of big returns. The fake story makes several claims of unrealistic returns, for example:

Paul Hogan: If you don't believe me, I'll prove it to you. Give me 375 A$, and with the help of X, I'll earn you a million in less than six months!

where X is the name of the scam product, and:

Paul Hogan: Try to imagine how much money will be in your balance in 2 weeks. If you invest at least 375 $ right now, then in just 2 weeks, you will have tens of thousands!

For legitimate investment products a good investment might earn you between 5–10% per annum. This scam is promising between 1600–12000% per annum which is completely unrealistic.

The over-the-top claims continue in the testimonials below. These testimonials are made to look like Facebook comments but a quick check of the HTML shows that they have not come from Facebook and are unlikely to be genuine.

The third warning sign are the high pressure tactics. The page attributes this fake quote to Hogan:

I'm not sure how long it will remain free. I've heard that registration on the platform will become paid after a few days, so I recommend hurrying. I hope you'll be able to use the platform before it becomes paid or registration closes for new users.

Then the signup form below says:

Registration will be free until the end of X

where X is always tomorrow's date. No matter when you look at the site the date is always tomorrow.

There is a final warning sign that ScamWatch doesn't mention: when looking at several ads the product name quoted on the article keeps changing. I clicked on four different ads in a space of a few minutes and got four completely different product names in exactly the same article:

A slideshow for four screenshots of browser windows showing the same article with only the product name changed in each. The product names are 'Quantum i200 Maxair', 'Bit i300 ePrex', 'BTC 0.8 Maxair', 'Quantum 0.9 Maxair'.
Each ad has the same article with a different product name: 'Quantum i200 Maxair', 'Bit i300 ePrex', 'BTC 0.8 Maxair', or 'Quantum 0.9 Maxair'

Even if you think this was a genuine transcript of a real conversation with Paul Hogan (which you shouldn't!) then why would he have had exactly the same conversation four times with just the product name changed? Of course he would not have... the conversation must be fake.

Reporting the scam to Facebook

This advertisement is against Facebook's Advertising Standards. Three relevant parts are:

  • Fraud, scams and deceptive practices: Ads must comply with the Community Standard on fraud, scams and deceptive practices.
  • Unacceptable business practices: Ads must not promote products, services, schemes or offers using identified deceptive or misleading practices, including those meant to scam people out of money or personal information.
  • Circumventing Systems: Ads must not use tactics that are intended to circumvent our ad review process. This includes techniques that attempt to disguise the ad's content or destination (landing) page.

I reckon I've already established that the ad breaches those first two parts.

The third part I haven't yet mentioned but is also in breach here. The ad mostly takes me to the fake story, but in certain circumstances it will disguise it. For example if I use a VPN to make it look like I'm in the USA or if I manipulate the URL to remove some parameters the ad will instead take me to a real news website—actually 9news.com.au rather than news.com.au, but the point here is that it shows me a real news site rather than a scam site. This is likely a technique used by the scammers to make it harder for Facebook to detect the scam. This circumvention means that perhaps Facebook can't see this breach of their rule... but I can, so I report it.

Facebook provides a link on the ad to allow me to report it:

Screenshot showing me reporting this scam advertisement on Facebook

After reporting this ad I didn't hear anything for a week. Then one week later—exactly one week, down to the minute—I received the response "We didn't remove the ad". That they rejected the report exactly one week later despite it being so obviously a scam makes me highly suspicious that no-one looked at my report and so an automated response was generated instead. The response says "We use a combination of technology and human reviewers to process reports" so perhaps in some cases a human reviewer looks at the report... but in this case I suspect they did not.

Here is the full response from Facebook:

Screenshot of a Facebook support inbox message. It says: We didn't remove the ad. Thanks again for your report. This information helps us improve the integrity and relevance of advertising on Facebook. We use a combination of technology and human reviewers to process reports and identify content that goes against our Advertising Standards. In this case, we did not remove the ad that you reported. If you think that we've made a mistake, you can request a review of this decision within 180 days. We understand that this might be frustrating, so we recommend influencing the ads that you see by hiding ads and changing your ad preferences. Learn more about how we take action on reports like yours.

So what next?

One could argue that I don't need to do anything. It's not like I'm the only person to notice these scam ads. ABC have been covering this problem for years in articles such as "Fake celebrity scam ads hijack Facebook accounts to target Australians" and Media Watch's coverage of Facebook scams. Media Watch had the same problem as me: they reported a scam ad and were told "it does not go against our Ad Policies" despite it being an obvious scam. And that was five years ago!

Australian businessman Andrew Forrest has been depicted in similar scam ads and so has taken Meta to court over them. If he can successfully demonstrate Facebook has been negligent in publishing these scam ads then perhaps that will finally cause Facebook to stop the ads. The case hasn't yet reached trial though.

But it feels wrong wait and to do nothing; it has been five or six years now so it feels like I've ignored the scam for too long. Meta hasn't stopped it so it is up to us to do it instead. Writing this blog post is a small start for me.

I have also taken to reporting the scam ads to the Australian Government's new ScamWatch Report a scam ad website. I don't know what action the Government will be taking but I hope they can rectify Facebook's failure to take action on my scam reports.

Screenshot of the ScamWatch 'Report a Scam Ad' beta website.

Finally, I intend to request a review of this decision from Facebook to give them another chance to take responsibility. If possible I will provide the URL of this blog post so that they can see detailed evidence of the scam. I'll follow up with another blog post on their response...

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I've been eagerly awaiting christmas dinner leftovers so that I can do this.
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Lake Chuzenji, Nikko Japan
Foggy evening on Lake Chuzenji, Nikko
Foggy evening on Lake Chuzenji, Nikko
Foggy evening on Lake Chuzenji, Nikko
Foggy evening on Lake Chuzenji, Nikko
Foggy evening on Lake Chuzenji, Nikko
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Okunoin Cemetery
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Okunoin cemetery is a captivating and mystical place, both sacred and improbable like we’re in a movie. Over a thousand years and hundreds of thousands of gravestones fighting against nature that seems so keen to reclaim the place.
Okunoin cemetery is a captivating and mystical place, both sacred and improbable like we’re in a movie. Over a thousand years and hundreds of thousands of gravestones fighting against nature that seems so keen to reclaim the place.
Okunoin cemetery is a captivating and mystical place, both sacred and improbable like we’re in a movie. Over a thousand years and hundreds of thousands of gravestones fighting against nature that seems so keen to reclaim the place.
Okunoin cemetery is a captivating and mystical place, both sacred and improbable like we’re in a movie. Over a thousand years and hundreds of thousands of gravestones fighting against nature that seems so keen to reclaim the place.
Okunoin cemetery is a captivating and mystical place, both sacred and improbable like we’re in a movie. Over a thousand years and hundreds of thousands of gravestones fighting against nature that seems so keen to reclaim the place.
Okunoin cemetery is a captivating and mystical place, both sacred and improbable like we’re in a movie. Over a thousand years and hundreds of thousands of gravestones fighting against nature that seems so keen to reclaim the place.
Okunoin cemetery is a captivating and mystical place, both sacred and improbable like we’re in a movie. Over a thousand years and hundreds of thousands of gravestones fighting against nature that seems so keen to reclaim the place.
Okunoin cemetery is a captivating and mystical place, both sacred and improbable like we’re in a movie. Over a thousand years and hundreds of thousands of gravestones fighting against nature that seems so keen to reclaim the place.
Okunoin cemetery is a captivating and mystical place, both sacred and improbable like we’re in a movie. Over a thousand years and hundreds of thousands of gravestones fighting against nature that seems so keen to reclaim the place.
Okunoin cemetery is a captivating and mystical place, both sacred and improbable like we’re in a movie. Over a thousand years and hundreds of thousands of gravestones fighting against nature that seems so keen to reclaim the place.
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Hiroshima: peace and okonomiyaki
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Hiroshima: peace and okonomiyaki
Hiroshima: peace and okonomiyaki
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Pleasant weather and lazy days in the Japanese alps around Shin-Hotaka Onsen, a relief after the hot and humid Japanese coastal cities.
Pleasant weather and lazy days in the Japanese alps around Shin-Hotaka Onsen, a relief after the hot and humid Japanese coastal cities.
Pleasant weather and lazy days in the Japanese alps around Shin-Hotaka Onsen, a relief after the hot and humid Japanese coastal cities.
Pleasant weather and lazy days in the Japanese alps around Shin-Hotaka Onsen, a relief after the hot and humid Japanese coastal cities.
Pleasant weather and lazy days in the Japanese alps around Shin-Hotaka Onsen, a relief after the hot and humid Japanese coastal cities.
Pleasant weather and lazy days in the Japanese alps around Shin-Hotaka Onsen, a relief after the hot and humid Japanese coastal cities.
Pleasant weather and lazy days in the Japanese alps around Shin-Hotaka Onsen, a relief after the hot and humid Japanese coastal cities.
Pleasant weather and lazy days in the Japanese alps around Shin-Hotaka Onsen, a relief after the hot and humid Japanese coastal cities.
Pleasant weather and lazy days in the Japanese alps around Shin-Hotaka Onsen, a relief after the hot and humid Japanese coastal cities.
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Renge-ji temple, Kyoto
Renge-ji temple, Kyoto
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